Pretty Little Liars Round Table: Shadow Play

As the table discussed Pretty Little Liars Season 4 Episode 19 the participants try to determine if anyting of value was discovered from Spencer's dream, who looked the best in period dress and what might come when Aria is told about the information that's piled up around Ezra.

Join staff writers Leigh Raines, Teresa Lopez and Carissa Pavlica with your own answers to all the questions by posting them in the comments. It's always more fun with your participation!

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How long do you think Spencer zoned out at the kitchen counter to imagine that entire scenario? Did you like the way her brain worked it all out?

Leigh: I bet it wasn't all that long. Don't they say dreams happen in just a few minutes? I liked how she tripped out. That's what sleep deprivation will do!

Teresa: Seemed like just a few seconds. Time is relative, I guess. It was an interesting way to push her into figuring things out, but I don't like that it seemed to condone her druggie behavior. Maybe Spencer wouldn't have come to that realization if she'd hadn't fallen asleep while standing. Plus, we didn't really need an entire episode's worth of Spencer piecing it together through an elaborate dream.

Carissa: I thought it was fun way to see what Spencer's brain did for her. All of the things she thought about have been on her mind, including the difficulties Emily has with her sexuality in the general public. Even if she only zoned out for a few seconds, it's nice to know she doesn't only think of herself when she disappears.

Who did the time period best? Give a shout out to your favorite and worst, or rank your top three, etc. Responder's choice!

Leigh: I think Hanna was my favorite. She looked good in 40s clothes and she was funny running that switchboard. I think she would've been fabulous in that time. It was also great to see Emily all glammed up, I thought she looked stunning.

Teresa: I actually think Ezra did it best. He had that controlled, menacing appeal that a lot of film noir villains do. My least favorite was definitely Toby. That 40s and 50s slang just didn't seem natural for him.

Carissa: For the girls, it was a tough choice. Spencer looked lovely, Emily stunning and Hanna adorable. Paige didn't fit. Ezra certainly beat out Toby for the guys.

How did Ezra manage to make changes to a diary that was written in pen that weren't immediately noticeable?

Leigh: That diary is probably really messy with scribbles, rewrites, cross outs, notes etc. Also it's PLL so extended imagination!

Teresa: I'm gonna go with Leigh on this. Suspension of disbelief is key to Pretty Little Liars fandom.

Carissa: That bugged me. The photos on Spencer's camera looked exactly the same as the diary pages. It would have been impossible. Silly Liars.

Did we learn anything of value from the episode?

Leigh: Hmm that the girls look great in period pieces. The dangers of too much Adderall and sleep deprivation. Also I think there was a hint that Spencer thinks Ali is afraid of her. That scene stood out.

Teresa: Umm....Spencer still thinks Alison is totally witch with a capital B? She wasn't very forgiving in her portrayal of Alison, and it really showed how much she distrusts her former bff. Maybe she does think Alison is afraid of her as Leigh suggests, and maybe we should wonder why that is. Did Spencer do something that night Ali disappeared that she hasn't shared yet?

Carissa: There has always been a tension suggested between Spencer and Ali, and I agree that it seemed Spencer's dream acknowledged it's a reality. I wonder what it is, and I can't wait to find out.

What is your expectation for next week after seeing the preview?

Leigh: Aria is gonna LOSE it. I don't think she'll believe Spencer at first because Spence is starting to look the way she feels and that's "haggard" but when Aria finally does...oh man. Can't wait!

Teresa: It's going to be intense! Aria is usually the most level-headed of the liars, but it looks like she's going to freak out. I'm excited to see it!

Carissa: I'm interested to see how Ezra handles it. We know Aria will freak out, but what will Ezra do? How will he try to get out of it and what will the lie (or truth) really be? I expect him to do some fancy dancing around the truth and I'm interested to put the pieces together after that.

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Pretty Little Liars Round Table: Hot for Teacher

Welcome back to the Pretty Little Liars Round Table!

This week, we're talking about Pretty Little Liars Season 4 Episode 18 and that includes a chat about the intricacies of EzrA, how quickly Shana flew the coop, when Ali will put her faith in the Liars and who's in immediate danger.

Join staff writers Leigh Raines, Teresa Lopez, Nick McHatton and Carissa Pavlica as they delve into all of this and theorize about the possibility of twins. Join in the fun now!

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Do you think Shana was scared away easily?
Leigh: Not really. If you woke up in your car having no recollection of what happened, wouldn't you be freaked out? Plus we still have no idea what knocked her out in the first place.

Teresa: Yeah. For someone who's been around every sketchy character in Rosewood, it didn't take much to get her to abandon Alison. I guess that means those other shady characters are actually innocent? I mean each of the liars has been terrorized pretty badly and not one has run off. Although, leaving the country sounds like a much better idea than finding out who A is.

Nick: There's more going on than just finding herself in a strange place not knowing what happened. She's being threatened, or maybe something even bigger is going on with her.

Carissa: Not only did she leave, she hung up on her oldest and dearest friend who she knew without her was without resources. She's always acted pretty tough, and now I wonder if it was all a put-on. To cut and run like that was pretty chicken. She acted as if the Liars were bad friends for being frightened but look how easily she was run off. What she went through was nothing by comparison.

Why did EzrA keep talking about truth with Aria?
Leigh: I think that even though we have established that EzrA is bad, there is still a side of him that is totally in love with Aria. He probably wants to be able to get close to her and hates having a huge secret. Then again, he's also probably stressing it because he wants information out of her.

Teresa: It was all about misdirection. If he comes across as an honest guy who thinks the truth is important, maybe Aria will give him the benefit of the doubt when he tries to explain away all the creepy stalking. It could work. Remember how easily Spencer went back to trusting Toby?

Nick: I'm with Teresa on this one. It's about Ezra misdirecting those around him. He has a persona to keep up. This lovable, slightly dorky man who believes in the classics, and values truth and honesty. Additionally, he wants to continue gathering information. Those pictures the A-Team is shooting of the liars only tells one half of the story, and he's hoping to find some context by continually talking about truth with Aria.

Carissa: This is part of the reason I'm asking the final question. I'm wondering if his desire is sincere. I'm starting to think his dual personality is too good. Even when he's good, he's still slightly off, but that's because of his overwhelming secret. Or else I'm a nutter. Probably that.

Ali has to put her faith in Emily. When will she do that?
Leigh: Within the next few episodes. Ali is almost out of money, she will have no choice. However, I think she will use another liaison rather than go to Emily directly. It's still too risky after what happened at their last meeting.

Teresa: I'm guessing not too long now. With no money and no contacts in Rosewood (that we know of anyway), she's going to need someone who has already proven that she is willing help no matter the danger. But next week's show looks like a weird (and unnecessary) departure from the usual format. Who knows when it will happen?

Nick: I don't think it's up to Ali. Knowing Emily she's going to keep pursuing Ali until Ali agrees to let her help her.

Carissa: Ali has about $14 and her only help just left her. She knows deep down that the Liars have always been there for her, even with as horribly as she has treated them. I hope she reaches out within the next couple episodes.

Who is in the most jeopardy right now?
Leigh: Spencer, for sure. Not only is she out of her mind on speed and no sleep, but she's getting way too close to the truth. Ezra knows and I'm sure the rest of the A-team does too. Ali didn't want Spencer at her meeting with Emily so I'm guessing that no one will really be happy that Spencer has all of this information. Second place is Aria, you know sleeping with the enemy and all. Did you see those close up pics in A's lair?

Teresa: Aria. She's sleeping with the enemy in his stalker cabin and no one has told her to protect herself yet.

Nick: Spencer since she's closest to figuring out EzrA. Spencer is going to slip up somewhere. She's getting sleep deprived, and she's close to having a Jesse Spano freakout from the pill popping. If she confronts Ezra without being completely focused, then she's drowning in the deep end without a floatie. Even Mona had a difficult time with Ezra, so Spencer needs to figure out a game plan without being so excited.

Carissa: Spencer. Until she gets her pill popping and lack of sleep under control, she's just short of a breakdown. That makes her very weak. Weak people are easy marks. Aria's weak because she's blinded by love, so she's in second place.

Pretty Little Liars Photos from "Shadow Play"

Pretty Little Liars Photos from "Shadow Play"

1. Are You on Drugs?
Spencer's brain is trying to tell her something, but will she piece it all together?

Something crossed my mind: how far out would it be if EzrA had a twin?
Leigh: This is Pretty Little Liars, anything is possible. It sure would make it easier to be in all those places at once. You think that one EzrA is the mastermind behind the control boards while the other one is out there doing the dirty bidding? Could be.

Teresa: That would both awesome and awful. Awful because it would totally destroy all the great character work Ian Harding is doing with Mr. Fitz. But awesome because who doesn't like a bad twin story?

Nick: That's a really awesome idea. It would give PLL it's own twist away from the books, but still paying an homage to them. Maybe there's an actual Fitzgerald out there!

Carissa: Some things keep coming to me. First that the writers haven't promised that EzrA won't be shown to have reasons for his odd behavior. Then all of his talk about truth. The close up photos of Aria make me think someone else needs to see her like that, not EzrA. His attire choices when he's A -- the windbreaker and cap. Can you imagine EzrA ever wearing that? What if he's protecting his crazy twin who was in Radley and had a relationship with Ali when he broke out. He also seems to be two places at once far too often. Maybe he's on his own A team, so to speak. Go on... hit me with your best shot!

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Supernatural Round Table:The Purge

Peruvian Fat Suckers. Sam in yoga shorts. Lunch lady Dean serving pudding.

There were plenty of fun moments on the latest Supernatural episode, as the Winchester brothers joined a wellness center. And with a major heart to heart at the end of the hour, it's given our Supernatural Round Table participants Carissa Pavlica, Sean McKenna and Alice (from Winchester Family Business) plenty to talk about.

Grab your health smoothie and let's discuss Supernatural Season 9 Episode 13 now...

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Favorite scene from this Supernatural Season 9 episode?
Carissa: There were too many. I enjoyed Dean trying to impress the resort owners with this fitness prowess and later Sam showing the yoga class how skilled he was by asking them to hold a pose for 5 minutes, much to their horror. Their fish out of water situations are always some of my favorites.

Alice: I’m going to be a glutton for punishment and say the final one, the serious talk between Sam and Dean. Why? Because these two are rarely so open and honest with one another. It’s refreshing to see.  Yeah, I know, they were brutally honest to the point where it ended with hurt feelings, but the entire conversation made sense to me. I think Sam was hoping in the last couple of episodes, ever since that scene on the docks in “Road Trip”, that Dean would figure out how why he was so mad. No such luck, so he had to spell it out. The truth really effin’ hurts.

Sean: I agree with Carissa about putting Sam and Dean in situations that aren't always comfortable for them. That's why I have to go with the brothers interviewing for the job. Dean's enthusiasm for fitness was hilarious, which it made it even funnier that Sam was given the yoga job and Dean became the lunch lady. At least he got some pudding!

What did you think of the Peruvian Fat Suckers?
Carissa: I wouldn't mind having one of my own, if I'm honest. It would be a little nasty to make love to the guy, but he'd keep me nice and trim and we could make a mint with our own health spa. Hell to the yeah!

Alice: I’m wishing like mad they are real and I want one to invade my house right now. I’ll sacrifice all the fat the creature needs for the sake of my family.

Sean: I wasn't really impressed with the monsters compared to other unique ones we've come across on the show. That said, if they were real, they'd make a killing in money with their helpful fat sucking skills.

Do you really believe Sam wouldn't make the same decision to save Dean if the roles were reversed?
Carissa: No. It's always easier to say it when the shoe is on the other foot. They've both been through it so many times that it seems more likely to me that Sam has lost his will to fight because he doesn't have anything to fight for -- no real life. He can't have a girlfriend, family or even a dog. But he has his brother. When he realizes that again, he'll want to live.

Alice: Yes, I do. But everyone’s got to understand, Sam said “if the circumstances were the same.” In other words, if Dean was lying near death in a hospital, Sam would not conspire with an angel and trick Dean into angel possession to save his life. Many are taking that to believe that Sam wouldn’t try to save Dean’s life at all. Sam is more accepting of death and being alone.

That doesn’t mean he wishes it, just that he knows where to draw the line. He still remembers the events from “Faith.” He already knows the consequences of making such decisions. But he will do what it takes until it reaches that point.

Sean: I think it's tough to say until actually faced with that circumstance and I still believe (and think it might come down to it) that Sam would save Dean from death. But I do agree with Alice about the specific circumstances of Sam's comments as well. He really is much more OK with being alone, but I still think he's just still very understandably upset. The brothers have always cared for each other, just found different ways to show it. Hopefully, the two will be able to each grow past this current problem between the two.

Supernatural Photo from "The Purge"

1. Pushing Himself Up
Sam does a push up in this scene from Supernatural. Why do we have a feeling that he could do quite a few of these?

How do you think Sam's comments will affect Dean's decisions, thought process from here on out?
Carissa: I'm not sure I know what comments you mean. His annoying, "I'm just being honest" ones? I think they'll continue to pick at each other until Dean realizes that Sam isn't ready to die as much as he doesn't have anything to live for. They're actually closer than they've been in years to having something of their own with their lair, so they have to step back and look at what they have and stop seeing everything as so dour.

Alice: That’s a great question. It looks like he’s drinking again, so I anticipate more of that. I think he’s going to be more reckless and if Sam tries to say anything about it, he’ll throw Sam’s comments from this episode back in his face. The Mark of Cain is likely going to play into his further downward spiral too, but a broken relationship with Sam won’t help. He’ll likely believe that his brother doesn’t have his back and will be doing a lot of things on his own and befriending others. Kind of like before they hugged in out in “Sacrifice.” I’m sorry, what was the relevance of that scene again? It didn’t seem to stick.

Sean: I think the "Sacrifice" scene with the brothers was a huge moment for the series, although the follow up episode seemed to go in a different direction, and now the brothers are at odds. And with Sam not on the brotherly love train and Dean with the Mark of Cain, I predict some risky choices and reckless behavior. But it's always darkest just before the dawn.

What can Sam and Dean do or need to truly get back on the same page working together as a team and as brothers?

Carissa: Counseling. It's time for some angel on one shoulder devil on the other action. They should be locked in a room with their two best counselors telling them how great they are together -- the two Cs. Crowley and Castiel. Tell me I'm wrong.

Alice: I’m with Carissa. Crowley and Castiel team together, put Sam and Dean in a locked room and won’t let them go until they hug it out! (Rushes to write the fan fiction now). Nah, for one, it’s going to take a lot of time (I know, fans hate to hear that). I imagine something is going to happen to Dean with this Mark of Cain business, and they are forced to work together to keep Dean from doing whatever the Mark of Cain is going to make him do (Go crazy? Go evil?). Sam will pledge his loyalty, Dean won’t believe him, blah, blah, it all works out in the end. Either that or they arm wrestle.

Sean: That Mark of Cain and the repercussions are what's going to have to pull them together at some point. Really, Dean and Sam need to come to a compromise. Dean needs to pull back on the over protection and Sam needs to realize that he can't do it all on his own, without any brotherly love. It'll definitely take time, but I think once the two pass that hurdle, the series keeps them on good terms together, fighting the good fight. Maybe they just need a spa day.

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